On 24.01.2013 20:27, James Freer wrote: > On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Leon Fauster > <leonfauster at googlemail.com> wrote: >> Am 22.01.2013 um 23:03 schrieb James Freer >> <jessejazza3.uk at gmail.com>: >>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:15 PM, Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org> >>> wrote: >>>> On 01/22/2013 03:01 PM, James Freer wrote: >>>>> I've just installed v6.3 as a desktop (from >>>>> Centos-6.3-i386-LiveCD.iso) and to get the hang of the Centos >>>>> approach >>>>> and then hope to move on to a server. I've been using linux *buntu >>>>> for >>>>> 5 years. >>>>> >>>>> Hope i don't sound like a nit but i've got a little confused with >>>>> the >>>>> repos. Hoping someone would be kind enough just to clarify. This >>>>> installation is for stability whilst installing the latest >>>>> versions >>>>> available. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> a] What happens if i select these? I assume that Centos6 is >>>>> correct so >>>>> why these? >>>>> >>>>> In software sources i have checked; >>>>> Centos6-base, Centos6-extras, Centos6-updates >>>>> >>>>> unchecked; >>>>> Centos6-contrib, Centos6-media, Centos6-plus >>>>> i did check these three and media wouldn't, and plus wanted to >>>>> suggest >>>>> installation kernel 2.6 [gulp]. Each unchecked without installing. >>>>> >>>>> Then we also have the same for 6.0, 6.1, 6.2? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> b] So which repos to use as i'm unsure where apps are i want to >>>>> use >>>>> like efax (ok that's in), yumex, pyrenamer, llgal, abiword. at >>>>> present >>>>> i'm not sure which repos to use other than the one's i've >>>>> mentioned. >>>>> >>>>> I then started to look at the repos >>>>> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories >>>>> >>>>> Centos extras and plus -- are these the same as above? >>>>> CS/GFS, Centos testing, Fast track, debuginfo, contrib, CR - would >>>>> seem not applicable to me. >>>>> >>>>> 3rd party repos >>>>> rpmforge (DAG), and EPEL seem likely >>>>> other repos seem likely to replace core packages which wouldn't be >>>>> applicable. >>>>> Google RPM gets a "use with care". I used the google browser on >>>>> *buntu >>>>> from their website with no problems so i was wondering what the >>>>> problem would be and whether to use this repoo or the website. The >>>>> fact that a maintainer has made this repo suggests a reason rather >>>>> than just convenience. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> c] Could one just use pkgs.org to install from? >>>>> >>>>> My google "centos abiword" threw up yet another repo 'puias' and >>>>> this >>>>> has the latest Abiword version 2.8.6. >>>>> http://pkgs.org/centos-6-rhel-6/puias-i386/abiword-2.8.6-3.puias6.i686.rpm.html >>>>> I could just install from pkgs.org/centos-6 it would seem? Point >>>>> is >>>>> the repos are maintained by an expert rather than folk just >>>>> downloading. >>>>> >>>>> I was then confused further by this >>>>> http://miles.isb.bj.edu.cn/2012/03/09/how-to-install-abiword-on-centos-6-x64/ >>>>> One needs to add epal and rpmforge just for abiword? Surely the >>>>> dependencies would be in the same repo >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I'm sure all is quite simple really but i'd be grateful for the >>>>> guidance before i mess up an installation. >>>> >>>> puias is another rebuild of RHEL code (like CentOS .. but a >>>> different >>>> project) ... they also just changed their name to Springdale Linux: >>>> >>>> http://springdale.math.ias.edu/ >>>> >>>> WRT recommended repos (that also explains what extras is, >>>> centosplus is, >>>> etc): >>>> >>>> http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources/Repositories >>>> >>>> Basically, for almost everything I need, I can get it from CentOS, >>>> EPEL, >>>> and maybe RPMForge. >>>> >>>> As far as the distro is concerned, CentOS-6 is the distro and the >>>> point >>>> releases are basically just point in time freezes to generate new >>>> install media. You will always get to the latest version of >>>> CentOS-6 >>>> (currently 6.3 and updates to that) by doing "yum update" >>>> >>>> CR is a way to "point release" updates about a week faster, we >>>> release >>>> the RPMS when they are ready, into CR and then we make ISOs out of >>>> them >>>> and release the next version. It usually takes 5-10 days to make >>>> the >>>> ISOs, test them and seed them. >>> >>> puias... sorry i overlooked that. Clear enough now. I'll use the >>> epel >>> and rpmforge repos and see how i get on. > > > Hi folks > >> i do not recommend to use this two repos simultaniuous (or use >> priorities!). >> LF > > hmmm - well what is one supposed to do? I've got EPEL installed fine > but that doesn't have abiword, pyrenamer and some of the the other... > fairly standard apps. I turned to Centos after Fedora has proved to be > a bit dodgy. Centos along with debian are supposed to be the TWO main > community distros. If rpmforge shouldn't be installed (as you've > advised) it seems i need to look at another distro. The advice is to > stay with a distro's developer packages and only use other repo if one > really has to. I can only assume that Centos really is for Server use > rather than desktop... i was just hoping to use it as a desktop before > moving onto the server route. If you'd like to try, I do maintain a desktop related repository meant to not conflict with @Base or EPEL (or Elrepo): rpm -ivh http://li.nux.ro/download/nux/dextop/el6/x86_64/nux-dextop-release-0-2.el6.nux.noarch.rpm There are a lot of packages there, for those that are not you can drop me an email or ask on https://forums.nux.ro/index.php?t=thread&frm_id=10& If you'd like to get even more adventurous I even have a desktop Centos remix built around EPEL, ElRepo and my own repos: http://li.nux.ro/stella/ </shameless plug> -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro