On 01/23/2013 03:53 PM, Cliff Pratt wrote: > On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 7:52 AM, Robert Moskowitz <rgm at htt-consult.com> wrote: >> On 01/23/2013 01:39 PM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >>> Robert Moskowitz wrote: >>>> On 01/23/2013 06:23 AM, Adekoya Adekunle wrote: >>>>> How can I open crontab with gedit any any other editor ? >>>>> >>>>> i want to edit my cron jobs with other editors beside vi. >>>> From a terminal window: >>>> >>>> su >>>> gedit /etc/crontab & >>>> >>>> I do it all the time. I suppose there is a one line variant with sudo, >>>> but I tend to have a root terminal open for lots of different things. >>> Bad idea. Very much depreciated. You should edit crontab using -e [1], and >>> sudoers with visudo. >>> >>> 1] to use a different editor, from the man pages: >>> ENVIRONMENT >>> >>> VISUAL Invoked by visudo as the editor to use >>> >>> EDITOR Used by visudo if VISUAL is not set >>> >>> Using the correct tool invokes syntax checking *before* it's saved. If you >>> don't have root password, you could seriously be up the creek if you make >>> a typo in sudoers.... >> Serious typos abound. The most serious one I did was to fstab once upon >> a time. >> >> I don't use sudo. If I need root changes, I better have the root >> password to use su. If I don't have the root password, then it is >> either not my system to change, or I have a serious problem indeed. >> > That's fine unless you have 100s of machines to administer. If you > have 100 machines do you a) set all the root passwords to the same, or > b) maintain a manual file of logins. I am fortunate this way; this is not my day job. But I do not have an IT group to manage most of my systems I use to support my day job, so I am it. Thus I lean on those of you that have this as a day job to figure out what I have not yet figured out. I do try and help with what I know, but most of it is theory on things which are still a few years out. What many of you are working with in security services, I was working on developing back when they were developed. Like digital certs and PKI infrastructure as an example. Today my efforts are in what is called 'the Internet Of Things' and 'Home Area Networks' and 'Medical Body Area Networks'. Mostly those little tiny things that most are not bothering to secure. Thanks for all the help you people provide me. Hopefully I will be helping to create technologies that will continue to provide you all with livelyhoods :) Oh, years ago I wrote about the importance of writing down important ids and passwords and putting them in a firebox with someone important knowing where it is. There are lots of disaster stories out their, small and large, where the people that knew these were lost and data was or almost lost as well. And I was talking to Tatu Ylonen, the creator of SSH (when he was a student in Helsinki), back in November on the disaster of SSH accounts at many large companies. He has found banks with thousands of SSH accounts that no one knows whose they are or how to clean them up. He is working on a set of tools to help out on this.