On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:29 PM, <m.roth at 5-cent.us> wrote: > I've never worked for M$, have stayed away > from WinDoze for many years, and I *loathe* java It´s amazing the Java haters are not content with hating it in silence, they must spread their dislike and insisit that everyone else should hate it too. Just don´t use it, but keep the hate for yourself, and let those of us that understand it, use it and enjoy it. (OpenJDK, Netbeans, jEdit, Vuze, Jitsi, etc) Like RedHat, for instance, which is a big backer of JBoss and invests in OpenJDK... http://www.redhat.com/summit/2012/pdf/2012-DevDay-OpenJDK-Bhole.pdf Sheesh... FC -- During times of Universal Deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act - George Orwell