Les Mikesell wrote: > On Fri, Mar 15, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ned Slider <ned at unixmail.co.uk> wrote: >> >> Mark - as a general word of advise, next time you have an issue, rather >> than ranting because something isn't working as you expect and calling >> people stupid, perhaps you could try describing the problem you are >> experiencing in a rational manor and provide supporting information. It >> seems you had already decided it was someone else's fault and were more >> interested in blaming others than examining your own issues. > > This is a generic issue that deserves at least some ranting, although > not particularly at you. As long as the distro requires the use of a > repository that by policy excludes things that almost everyone needs > we are pretty much forced to use 3rd party repositories that almost by > definition are uncoordinated in a way that makes their interaction > unpredictable and any defensive configuration measures likely to fail. > I don't see any possibility of changing this, so what else is there > to do but rant? I responded to Ned in the way I suggested to him - offlist. And as the o/p, let me note to everyone else the following points: a) I called it a *moderate* rant - I wasn't spitting, screaming in ALL CAPS, or calling names (except, by implication, the other admin I work with who did this to me). b) when people started making suggestions pointing me in the correct direction, I neither i) got huffy and deny it was on my end; ii) did not continue to scream and yell, but investigated as time allowed here at work, and iii) when I found the problem, worked to check the fix, and thanked the folks who'd helped. And I'm *sure* none of you have *ever* had something happened, and gotten pissed, and screamed all over..... mark "is that the Tooth Fairy I see?" deny