On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 13:25:31 -0400, m.roth-x6lchVBUigD1P9xLtpHBDw wrote: [....] >> And Usenet is effectively gone. > > It's still there. And some newsgroups are still busy, though not like in > the good days of the early nineties. Indeed, alas! But there is Gmane, which is a huge help, especially for those of us who are still (and doubtless irremediably) subtechnoid. In particular, point your reader (Let's hear it for Pan, too! ) at news.gmane.org, and look at fedora.general. -- Beartooth Staffwright, Neo-Redneck Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I have precious (very precious!) little idea where up is.