[CentOS] 2 questions re UPS management

On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 01:59:48AM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> On 03/19/2013 09:09 PM, Fred Smith wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 03:36:45PM -0700, Gordon Messmer wrote:
> >> If you run the script manually, you should expect to see the Windows PC
> >> shut down, then the Linux machine after 5 minutes, and the UPS should
> >> shut down with the Linux host.  Is that what happens?
> >
> > Yes. exactly that.
> 
> OK.

Gordon, thanks for the additional info. I'll experiment with these
things as time permits, and if I learn anything interesting I'll
generate a reply at that time.

Fred

<leaving the rest here for "historical record" purposes.>

> 
> > I dunno what a "master port" is,... there's only one place to connect
> > the USB cable to the UPS.
> 
> The master port is a power port on the UPS.  If configured to do so, the 
> UPS will shut off all power ports when the device on the master port 
> shuts off.
> 
> If you're actually using a master port, the Windows host and all other 
> devices would be immediately turned off every time you power down the 
> Linux host.  That's one way to determine whether or not you are.
> 
> However, if you're not, then I'm not sure why the UPS would ever turn 
> off.  I'm almost completely certain that GNOME's power management cannot 
> power off the UPS when the system halts.  That feature is common to 
> business class UPS management software, but not GNOME.
> 
> >> Try turning off the Windows host and then pulling the UPS off of line
> >> power.  See how everything behaves when only the Linux host is running
> >> on the UPS.
> 
> That's still a useful test, as is just shutting down the Linux host to 
> see if the other equipment is turned off when the Linux host shuts off.
> 
> > so my puzzle remains: why does shutdown not honor the "+5" when it's
> > part of a separate script, but does when it's not?
> 
> My first guess would be that either the powerfail script is being 
> executed as part of a shutdown, or that the powerfail script is being 
> executed in addition to a shutdown.
> 
> >> If you want the systems to shut down whether or not you're logged in,
> >> you'd need to install NUT and configure it to manage the UPS, and
> >> configure GNOME to not do so.
> >
> > You think this mechanism only works when logged in? (I have no idea,
> > I'm not doubting you, it's simply a thought I hadn't had--yet).
> 
> I don't use GNOME power management, so I can't say that I've tested it. 
>   However, everything that I've read indicates that it only functions in 
> the user shell.  gdm's session may not run the power management code, or 
> may not be configured to do anything on a low power state.
> 
> > the C6 system is a personal desktop, at home, and it too is logged in
> > most of the time. Last time I looked at nut, I found too many things
> > I had to know in order to configure it that I didn't know, like it wasn't
> > clear which nut device driver was correct for the tripplite UPS I had
> > at the time, and some of the configurations (as far as I recall,... it's
> > been several years) depended on which device it was. So after messing
> > with it a while, and it not working, I just gave it up.
> 
> For USB attached UPSs, it's pretty straightforward.
> 
> nut.conf:
> MODE=standalone
> 
> ups.conf:
> [apc]
>          driver = usbhid-ups
>          port = auto
> 
> upsd.users:
> ... follow the examples to create an admin user, set passwords.  I 
> frequently use "uuidgen" to create passwords for these.
> 
> [admin]
>          password = @PASSWORD@
>          allowfrom = localhost
>          actions = SET
>          instcmds = ALL
>          upsmon master
> 
> 
> upsmon.conf:
> MONITOR apc at localhost 1 admin @PSAASWORD@ master
> 
> 
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