I'm investigating how to setup KVM so I can run VMs without having to use VirtualBox or VMware, or etc. All the HOWTOs I see tell you to disable NM. I use NM to manage VPN clients that I use for remote access to my office, among other places. How would I manage those VPN clients if I didn't use NM? I haven't found any commands that appear to be suited to that purpose. thanks! -- ---- Fred Smith -- fredex at fcshome.stoneham.ma.us ----------------------------- The Lord is like a strong tower. Those who do what is right can run to him for safety. --------------------------- Proverbs 18:10 (niv) -----------------------------