> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 11:23 AM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> > wrote: > > > You only spotted 4 _last_ guys running away to UNIX. The rest fled quite a > > while ago. On Mon, 2014-08-11 at 12:53 -0400, BC wrote: > I wasn't aware that this was a forum for whining that upstream's vision of > a system didn't match one's own. Stating one's dread of having imposed as a standard, a firewall that can not control outgoing packets and has dumbed-down Micro$oft-like 'zones' and the possible future removal of IP Tables from the very much admired Centos version of RHEL, is probably a desperate call for sanity to prevail at Red Hat. The imposition of what appears to many of unfinished software rather than a genuine finished improvement does suggests faulty reasoning upstream. Upstream's people take more notice of this list since the Red Hat 'take-over' / 'intervention' / 'involvement' in Centos. The ordinary Centos fan has little ability to reach any of the decision makers at Red Hat. This list is probably the easiest and best method. It is better if one articulates one's concerns on here rather than ignoring what appear to be fundamental mistakes in the composition of much appreciated software. We care because we genuinely like Centos. -- Regards, Paul. England, EU. Centos, Exim, Apache, Libre Office. Linux is the future. Micro$oft is the past.