[CentOS] NetworkManager

Digimer lists at alteeve.ca
Mon Aug 25 16:43:02 UTC 2014


On 25/08/14 12:38 PM, Marcelo Ricardo Leitner wrote:
> Em 23-08-2014 19:30, Steve Clark escreveu:
>> On 08/22/2014 07:42 PM, Digimer wrote:
>>> On 22/08/14 07:07 PM, Les Mikesell wrote:
>>>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 5:46 PM, Digimer <lists at alteeve.ca> wrote:
>>>>> To continue your analogy, should car companies have stopped changing
>>>>> after the 20s? I mean, the cars then got you were you needed to go, right?
>>>> The point is to abstract an interface so you can make changes behind
>>>> it without breaking the things already built around it.  You can
>>>> always add things without breaking anything that already worked for
>>>> your community of users.  If you didn't care about that yourself,
>>>> you'd be recompiling a  gentoo weekly instead of being here.
>>> To echo John, this is a major release. It's where, when needed, things
>>> can change and break backwards compatibility. If a change like this
>>> happened as a y-stream release, sure, I'll grab my pitch fork along with
>>> you.
>>>
>>> It's not realistic to expect backwards compatibility to last forever.
>>> The sysv init stuff had a good long run, but it was time to change. Now,
>>> you're welcome to disagree with me (and the archives are littered
>>> already with this argument), but in the end, it changed. A major version
>>> was the right place to do it, and now it is done.
>>>
>>> So this brings me back to my original point... Unless you plan to wage a
>>> war against things like Network Manager, systemd or what have you in the
>>> faint home of reverting in the next major release, you don't have a lot
>>> of viable long term options.
>>>
>>> Learn the new ways or fade from relevance.
>>>
>>> I say this without passing judgment on the merits of the new or old
>>> ways, simply as a fact of life. Even if you did hold out hope for, say,
>>> RHEL 8 to return to the old ways, you will have a hard time avoiding
>>> EL7. It will almost certainly be adopted wide-scale and that will
>>> provide inertia.
>>>
>> NetworkManager is the window's world way of doing things for people that don't really understand
>> what is going on. I see no use for it immediately disable it. But it pains me to have to take the time.
>
> TBH, I also had some pain on learning it, but now that we also have
> nmcli (command line tool), I actually feel it's easier than the old
> ifcfg- files. It's better script-able than before.
>
> Marcelo

Bingo!

Things have to change to improve, and the improve you inevitably take 
some false starts. Once you get it right though... :)

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