Jonathan, I would much prefer to run out-of-the box. No question! BTW, on other machines that I installed CentOS7, chrony, was not there. Neither was anaconda or initial-setup. This was after the install, naturally. Ok, so maybe this box was unlucky. It was installed the same day as Centos7 came out. I will re-install, update and see what happens. Quite often the problem lies between the computer and the chair. Update to follow... -George On 12/12/2014 11:55 AM, Jonathan Billings wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 09:55:12AM -0500, xaos wrote: >> Alexander, >> >> First off, CentOS7 came with cronyd. Which was very annoying >> because when I tried to remove it, it had 2 prereqs: >> anaconda >> initial-setup >> >> Now, I don't know why the setup program kept these >> 2 around. I think CentOS7 needs a bit growing up. > 'initial-setup' is the program that runs on your first boot, and it > requires 'anaconda'. 'anaconda' requires the 'chrony' package. > Services in the default install require a time-sync daemon, and chrony > is the default, so this isn't really unexpected. Once a system is set > up, it doesn't remove the initial-setup package. > >> Then I installed ntp. However, when I started it >> it seems that it was not compiled with: --enable-all-clocks > That doesn't seem to be the case. Looking at the NTP spec file, I > see: > > %configure \ > --sysconfdir=%{_sysconfdir}/ntp/crypto \ > --with-openssl-libdir=%{_libdir} \ > --without-ntpsnmpd \ > --enable-all-clocks --enable-parse-clocks \ > --enable-ntp-signd=%{_localstatedir}/run/ntp_signd \ > --disable-local-libopts > > (check the git.centos.org version yourself: > https://git.centos.org/blob/rpms!ntp.git/dbacec4466ee70248db634b110bfad8a2b74cd82/SPECS!ntp.spec > ) > > As far as I can tell, there is literally no reason why you can't use > the packaged ntpd. > > If you are having a problem with getting the packaged ntpd working, I > suggest filing a bug against the RHEL package. The package has many > patches, perhaps one of them is interfering with detecting your > device. > >