On Thu, 2014-12-18 at 08:20 -0500, David Both wrote: > +1 > > It can be quite annoying when the X console is changed from one Virtual Console > to another as happens with almost every release of CentOS and Fedora. I would > really like it to be always consistent at Console 7. And the "real" system > console should always be Console 1. +1 I've been doing Centos for a long time and the update from 6.5->6.6 cost me much hours, crashes, lock up ... and final a complete re-install because of that and some code/commentary in an /etc/init* file that says X is a still expected on tty7 and changes could be put in a .override file if you want to change things. Silly me believed I could actually get X to start back on tty7 just like "God" intended. > > I am OK with change, but this seems to be fairly random change with know > apparent advantage or benefit. I'm not, but my choices are apparently limed to switching distros, with results from that unknown. The discussion about Gnome 3 got me thinking about it first. Since I started working intimately with UNIX back in '78, I'm wondering about the BSD stuff and the others guys have mentioned. When I visited my sister a couple years back I noticed her Apple stuff was based on BSD 4.0(?) IIRC - I *think* it was BSD. I jumped right into command line mode a was happy a a pig in ... "mud". However, being I've successfully transitioned into a TDU (Typical Dumb User) since exiting the profession, I consider that sort of switch quite carefully before doing anything. > > It is a big deal to keep it consistent. That way I know what to tell customers > when they call and I have to talk them through a procedure over the phone. I don't know if this would work in your situation, but what I've done is make a "do nothing user" on my system. I log into the first X session there and do the System->Log out->Switch user thingy, which gives me tty7, tty8 and tty9 for the three logins I normally use. > <snip> Bill