Am 29.12.2014 um 10:22 schrieb Ned Slider <ned at unixmail.co.uk>: > On 29/12/14 01:52, Always Learning wrote: >> >> On Thu, 2014-12-18 at 10:30 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: >> >>> .............. The design changes are done in Fedora, by >>> people who apparently never liked unix or consistency, not the people >>> using Red Hat or CentOS that already have things working that they >>> would like to keep working the same way across upgrades. >> >> What type of large commercial organisation lets undisciplined people >> make adverse changes detrimental to the reputation and ultimate success >> of its 'stable' commercial product. Since Enterprise Linux is supposed >> NOT to be Windoze, consistency is very important especially for the >> paying (R.H.) customers. It is also much appreciated by its devout fans >> and the hardworking guardians of the Centos cloned version. >> >> * The dramatic upheaval in C7; >> * The claimed life-span of C5 truncated by no more normal upgrades; >> * The changes introduced in C6.6, during the lifetime of an allegedly >> stable C6 product; >> >> all seem to suggest Upstream lacks a clear, reliable and dependable >> strategic policy (or what some call a 'sense of direction'). >> >> Happy New Year to all to everyone. >> > > The stability comes _within_ a product release. I don't think it's realistic to expect el7 to be the same as el6 or el5, otherwsie what's the point of the newer releases. You have 7 years of support / consistency (now 10 years). What business model do you have that you can't build around a product guaranteed to be consistent/supported for the next 10 years? Effective, 6 1/2 years - just to be precise not pedantic, for the last 3 1/2 years following applies [1]: "Production 3 Phase: During the Production 3 Phase, Critical impact Security Advisories (RHSAs) and selected Urgent Priority Bug Fix Advisories (RHBAs) may be released as they become available. Other errata advisories may be delivered as appropriate." "may be" is here important - as the past shows up that moderate updates were not released anymore. [1] https://access.redhat.com/support/policy/updates/errata#Production_3_Phase -- LF