On 7 February 2014 16:34, John R Pierce <pierce at hogranch.com> wrote: > On 2/7/2014 8:06 AM, James Hogarth wrote: > > The two I linked are internal units to go in a 5.25" bay ... that's why > > you'd need an internal 4-6 port card to make them worthwhile. > > ah, I thought we were talking about esata external 4-bays, since we were > talking about microservers which don't HAVE said 5.25" bays. > > the desktop chassis I usually get have 6-8 3.5" bays in them already, > albeit they are side load internals. > > Different generation of microserver ... I hadn't seen the gen8's till you mentioned them today (I actually thought you were mentioning the rack based dl*gen8s) ... The previous gen microservers (N40/45/54L) have all have a 5.25" bay at the top principally for an optical drive but it's common use to put extra drives in there (caddied or just plain wedged .. my OS drive is a single 3.5" drive wedged in it for instance). See the N40L wiki here for an idea of what I'm talking about: http://n40l.wikia.com/wiki/HP_MicroServer_N40L_Wiki