I recently obtained a desktop computer with an nVidia video card: from lspci: 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1 I had to open the case to connect the DVD drive and saw what appears to be a fallen radiator: http://www.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/computer/amd64-1.jpg http://www.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu/~hennebry/computer/amd64-2.jpg That nothing is shorted out appears to be a matter of luck. Any suggestions regarding how to prevent the radiator from shorting its video card? A suggestion of who to ask would be good. -- Michael hennebry at web.cs.ndsu.NoDak.edu "SCSI is NOT magic. There are *fundamental technical reasons* why it is necessary to sacrifice a young goat to your SCSI chain now and then." -- John Woods