It will probably be the same elsewhere, because they are CHEAP. I've used a few NZ Telco supplied routers over the years and a couple of cheap bought ones. All had some issue or the other. Nowadays I put up with or workaround any issues. Cheers, Cliff On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 9:00 PM, Rob Kampen <rkampen at kampensonline.com>wrote: > On a side note - the various ADSL broadband routers supplied by the NZ > telcos all seem to have missing or broken bits - the vodafone one doesn't > open the firewall properly for incoming http - the telecom device allows > one to specify a different IP address for the router but not the gw address > - thus it only works if you use their default IP/gw address. So many hours > wasted.