I view this as a takeover. I view this as a few who kept how to rebuild RHEL a state secret benefiting financially. I don't see how a community benefits when we cannot recreate for ourselves what is being done here. I don't see how we benefit when a large company comes in and buys their way into the board and pays off all members. Where is the Community's say in this? This is a payoff. Will we get releases sooner? Will we know how to rebuild the build environment for ourselves? What if Redhat slowly makes using CentOS painful to incentivize using RHEL? If Redhat had good intentions why don't they give unsupported RHEL for free themselves. Granted the probably want to keep OEL and the like from being able to freely rebuild and plagiarize and charge money for their stuff, but we , the Community, the masses of users, are stuck now between behemoths and their lackeys taking payouts throwing us whatever table scraps they want and we are powerless to change this. There is no makeworld or emerge world here, just binaries that magically get produced and peppered on an ftp whenever someone gets around to it. -- View this message in context: http://centos.1050465.n5.nabble.com/Re-CentOS-CentOS-announce-CentOS-Project-joins-forces-with-Red-Hat-tp5723460p5723801.html Sent from the CentOS mailing list archive at Nabble.com.