On 07/08/2014 08:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > On 08.07.2014 13:57, Scott Robbins wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 07, 2014 at 06:50:21PM -0700, Russell Miller wrote: >>> On Jul 7, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Scott Robbins<scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote: >>>> No systemd in FreeBSD. It isn't Linux, and like any O/S, has its own >>>> oddities. >>>> >>>> It would take more adjustment, IMHO, to go from CentOS 6.x to FreeBSD than >>>> to go to 7.x. (I'm saying this as someone who uses both FreeBSD and >>>> Fedora which has given a hint of what we'll see in CentOS 7.) >>>> >>> That's a good point. Systemd may be the "abomination of desolation" that >>> causes me to finally start moving to a BSD variant. Or at least start looking at one. >> Y'know, I was considered a troll when I said on Fedora forums that systemd >> going into server systems might start driving people away from RH to the >> BSDs. (And to be honest, I was being trollish there, in a friendly way--in >> the same way at work I'll say something about Arch loudly enough for our >> Arch lover to hear.) >> >> Now that it's insinuated itself in the RHEL system, I do wonder if it is >> going to start driving people away. In many ways, IMHO, RH has become the >> Windows of Linux, with no serious competitors, at least here in the US. >> Sure, some companies use something else, but when I had to job hunt last >> year, 90-95 percent of the Linux admin jobs were for RedHat/CentOS/OEL/SL >> admins. > That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion > though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward > to in CentOS 7 because of the new capabilities it provides so while this > will surely drive some people away it will actually attract others and > if you think that this will lead to some sort of great exodus then I > think you are mistaken. Not everybody is this uncomfortable with change. > > Regards, > Dennis My concern it that it is a massive change with a large footprint. How secure is it really? It has arguably become the second kernel it touches and handles so many things. Maybe on desktops it makes sense - but I fail to see any positives for servers that once started run for months at a time between reboots. -- Stephen Clark *NetWolves Managed Services, LLC.* Director of Technology Phone: 813-579-3200 Fax: 813-882-0209 Email: steve.clark at netwolves.com http://www.netwolves.com