On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 2:16 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl at thelounge.net> wrote: > > Am 08.07.2014 17:58, schrieb Les Mikesell: >> On Tue, Jul 8, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn >> <dennisml at conversis.de> wrote: >>> Also the switch from messy bash scripts to a declarative >>> configuration makes things easier once you get used to the syntax. >> >> Sorry, but I'd recommend that anyone who thinks shell syntax is >> 'messy' just stay away from unix-like systems instead of destroying >> the best parts of them > > WTF - you can place a shell-script in ExecStart and > set type to 'oneshot' - nobody is taking anything > away from you Unless you are offering to do that for me, for free, on all my systems, having to do it certainly does take something away. >>> Then there is the fact that services are actually monitored and can be >>> restarted automatically if they fail/crash and they run in a sane >>> environment where stdout is redirected into the journal so that all >>> output is caught which can be useful for debugging. >> >> What part of i/o redirection does the shell not handle well for you? > > wtaht part of monitoring did you not understand? Generally speaking, if a service is broken to the point that it needs something to automatically restart it I'd rather have it die gracefully and not do surprising things until someone fixes it. But then again, doesn't mysqld manage to accomplish that in a fully-compatible manner on Centos6? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com