> On 9.7.2014 20:35, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Question 1: has anyone used preupgrade (I used it with fc 17 -> 19, and >> it pretty much appeared to work, but that was on a couple of worksttions)? >> Opinions? >> Question 2: is grub still supported, or is there something that *FORCES* >> you to use grub2? >> >> mark "grub2 must DIE!" > It doesn't seem to have default packages. But you can always compile > your own. Of course when kernel updates you need to update config by hand. No. I do *not* want to compile my own. We have a very few packages like that, and we do *not* want to be responsible for worrying and tracking security and bugfixes and rebuilding the packages, not when we have 170+ servers and workstations to worry 'bout. > > Or you could do sensible thing and learn to change grub2 configs. It > wasn't that hard when I had to change some kernel boot parameter. I've looked at them some, on the one or two fedora boxes here, and on my netbook's ubuntu netbook remix, and I *LOATHE* having to wade through dozens and dozens of lines of code to fix something. Hey, I thought "declarative" configuration files were the way to go, at least according to this eternal thread... and if old grub.conf isn't that, then your definition is a lot different than mine. mark