On 2014-07-18, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell at gmail.com> wrote: > But it does force people who should be focusing on improving an > application to instead spend their time reconfiguring the startup > configuration for a distribution just to keep it working the same way. This seems (again) to be moving into a debate on "why systemd", when at least for CentOS 7 the decision has been made--it's systemd or bust (or a SIG for removing it). Perhaps we should focus systemd discussions more on how we as CentOS users can easily adjust? (I know, I already violated this principle in the thread, but I will aim not to in the future.) IOW, if people really don't like systemd, I don't think this is a good forum for that discussion. --keith -- kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us