On 07/08/2014 12:55 PM, Robert Moskowitz wrote: > On 07/08/2014 12:44 PM, Hal Wigoda wrote: >> You aren't old. > And I am a young 21. three times over. All that means is I have to > learn new stuff now 3 times to get it right! As some people on this > list will attest to :) > > Soon I will be 26 (2^6). So that means that I have to then learn > everything 6 times! Hmm... well soon I will be 26 + 4. > Age is what you make of it. Senior moments are to be cherished. ;)' > >> (Sent from iPhone, so please accept my apologies in advance for any spelling or grammatical errors.) >> >>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Russell Miller <duskglow at gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> On Jul 8, 2014, at 5:09 AM, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn <dennisml at conversis.de> wrote: >>>> >>>> That presumes that your conservative attitude is the majority opinion >>>> though. Systemd is one of the features that I have been looking forward >>>> to in CentOS 7 because of the new capabilities it provides so while this >>>> will surely drive some people away it will actually attract others and >>>> if you think that this will lead to some sort of great exodus then I >>>> think you are mistaken. Not everybody is this uncomfortable with change. >>>> >>> For the record, I'm not uncomfortable with change. I'm uncomfortable with stupid, >>> poorly thought out, monolithic change that ignores half a century of the UNIX philosophy. >>> And creating a daemon that tries to handle everything but the kitchen sink and implementing >>> it in such a way as to make it nearly incomprehensible to me certainly qualifies >>> as that type of change. >>> >>> Sysvinit may not be perfect, but it's UNIX. Systemd is... a lot of things, but more >>> of a windows-like solution than I"m comfortable with. It's just dumb. Surely there could >>> have been a better way of accomplishing their goals without creating the equivalent of >>> Cartman's Trapper Keeper. >>> -- Stephen Clark