Hey all, We have the following set in /etc/profile : umask 0002 so that it will affect all users. That should create all files as 664 and all directories as 775 if I'm not mistaken. Well I logged into the machine after this was set and just created a file as one of the users who complained about permissions settings on files. And this is what I saw: [user1 at qa_host ~]$ ls -l test_qa -rw-r--r-- 1 user1 domain^users 0 Jun 11 10:08 test_qa I even tried logging out and logging in again just to be sure. I still got the same result. So my question is why would the file not have the permissions specified by the umask command in /etc/profile ? I really need this to work for the users. Any helps or clues would be great! Thanks Tim -- GPG me!! gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys F186197B