Hi, I don't think that is a problem related to systemd, its mate-session job to start the necessary stuff. I worked around this by adding caja to the Startup Applications. I imagine it could be done relatively easy to add a script or something to enable that globally. HTH Lucian -- Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! Nux! www.nux.ro > So, I opened a terminal and started caja. Voila! not only did a caja > window open, but the desktop icons appeared, and the right-click menu. > however when I closed the terminal it all went away. :( > > so I did ALT-F2 and typed in "caja", hit enter, and there's the full > desktop again. and this time it stayed. > > from these symptoms I don't think I can tell if it's a caja problem, or an > issue with whoever starts up caja after login (something in systemd ???)