On 2014-05-01, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote: > > I haven't followed this thread too closely, so if this has already been > stated, please forgive me. It was not explicitly stated, so I appreciate the succinct summary. Thanks! > Judging from both recent editions of Fedora and the free beta RH7, you > don't HAVE to use NetworkManager. You will have to manually turn it off > and turn network on, and judging by later versions of Fedora (though not at > all deeply researched by me) you may need to use the > system-config-network-tui tool rather than just editing > /etc/sysocnfig/network/network-scripts/ifcfg-*. Can you recall what gave you this impression? It'd be frustrating to me to have to keep my hands off of the config files directly. (If not, I understand; if I really want to know that badly I should just check it myself.) > Unfortunately, (and freely admitting much of this may be old person's get > of my lawn attitude), it does seem that the Fedora developers are working > for the single user laptop, and have little concept of system > administration--or, to be fair, have little interest in things for the > system administrator, and unfortunately, RedHat just throws these things > into their next enterprise version without checking. Could this be a SIG in the future? "CentOS NM-Haters SIG" ;-) Does RH really "just throw these things in"? It seems like they would annoy many of their more tech-savvy customers with moves like this one (if it were to happen). --keith -- kkeller at wombat.san-francisco.ca.us