On 12 November 2014 @20:50 zulu, g wrote: > i believe problems are on your end, and not with server for James. i > do not see "dmarc=fail" or "p=QUARANTINE" in *any* of his email headers. I think you're not seeing the full headers, then. e.g. most of the headers of a recent message in here from James, and both those criteria appear about 5 lines down: Received-SPF: none (google.com: centos-bounces at centos.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) client-ip=72.26.200.203; Authentication-Results: mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: centos-bounces at centos.org does not designate permitted sender hosts) smtp.mail=centos-bounces at centos.org; dkim=neutral (body hash did not verify) header.i=@; dmarc=fail (p=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=harte-lyne.ca Received: from mail.centos.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.centos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE62A00713; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:34:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Original-To: centos at centos.org Delivered-To: centos at centos.org Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) by mail.centos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F77A002CA for <centos at centos.org>; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 17:34:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id B436E6043B for <centos at centos.org>; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:04 -0500 (EST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id by9zNScqFHCh for <centos at centos.org>; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 41849602AC for <centos at centos.org>; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:00 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=harte-lyne.ca; s=dkim_hll; t=1415727240; bh=bSzYYms7jOodBs74U9LvZAeQZVdsPPxt1/o9XNYXuR8=; h=In-Reply-To:References:Date:Subject:From:To:Reply-To; b=w1KDyK3Rm7K3CZzoP2ZdIAYwMZ1ZPANhjAn69iRCUvu+ggGgI/j7XBwmXRvYxFC5B GMNJQG6nuEEzhemHim3w5NsmPf2UL/n8LDBPzHvhLYwg3P+2L7GjaWG7tDhG3UDM+H u1v1AS75zKzrf5yznmW91ctz1+jm0Oprn/STmdOYolBeKeiKbNO7sWPfnnHIGk8ml6 tRg4r/WrnwlgxoNc4n6U/r9aLpIkaygm51yzDDPscVz0dWyoP1FCcwCqRKzFy6qF5C L+uCbolF2JlYG1dN10v0t1v3GcMX5un9m73jGHW+fGFfMXSOy9uWBh6D25NLW0T/Gw UuiAj65wERRBA== Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:00 -0500 Message-ID: <ff78832c15a303a9b7a03b842f5fe5cf.squirrel at webmail.harte-lyne.ca> In-Reply-To: <mailman.12.1415707202.24820.centos at centos.org> References: <mailman.12.1415707202.24820.centos at centos.org> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2014 12:34:00 -0500 From: "James B. Byrne" <byrnejb at harte-lyne.ca> To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org> User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-4.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal Subject: Re: [CentOS] Non-Gnome desktop X-BeenThere: centos at centos.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list Reply-To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> List-Id: CentOS mailing list <centos.centos.org> List-Unsubscribe: <http://lists.centos.org/mailman/options/centos>, <mailto:centos-request at centos.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/> List-Post: <mailto:centos at centos.org> List-Help: <mailto:centos-request at centos.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos>, <mailto:centos-request at centos.org?subject=subscribe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: centos-bounces at centos.org