On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:25 AM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > > I would second that. In general, it is rather discouraging to hear: "hey, > fix that thing on your side. Of course, I can make your mail not go into > my spambox on my side, but I don't care to change anything on my side". > Well if you do care to have someone's e-mail, put some effort in it. > Otherwise, if you don't care that much about that person's e-mail, why > making all that buzz? It's pretty much the same as: if I do care someone > hears understands what I say I do put effort into speaking loud enough and > intelligible enough. So you'd make some imaginary value judgement about the content of an email before seeing it? The concept doesn't make much sense in the context of a technical list. How would you know whether it is a question you couldn't answer anyway or the answer you were waiting for that might have gone unseen? > Consider it a point of view of external observer. I look at my spam folder regularly, because I know that automations generally make mistakes and what I find confirms that. But that lets one person see it - if he knows he was missing it in the first place. If you are the one posting a message to a list and you'd like people to see it, it would currently be wise to not send from an address where the domain requests that messages forwarded by other systems be quarantined or rejected. And if you are running a list and would like the members to see the messages you forward, it would be nice to use current software so that actually will happen instead of just hoping that all of the members know how to work around the problems old software causes. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com