On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:29 PM, Chris Adams <linux at cmadams.net> wrote: > Once upon a time, Kai Schaetzl <maillists at conactive.com> said: >> Well, *yes*. It's not business to be carried out on the list nor does the >> guy who moans about it seem to know why. And if you are the second from >> Gmail then please move it off-list as well. It's really not anyone's >> problem on this list what Gmail does. > > No, it isn't just "what Gmail does." Yahoo and AOL are other major > handlers that do the same/similar thing (and there are other > not-as-major email handlers doing it too). As has happened many times > in the past, the "rules" for email handling have changed. The biggest > group of legitimate email handlers affected by this change is mailing > list handlers; they need to adapt or get blocked/sidelined/etc. > > Is it annoying? Yep. Is what these providers are doing a good idea? > That's debatable. Is it here to stay? Most likely. So in practice I think this really boils down to the common problem of ancient software shipped by RHEL and the bug-for-bug compatibility in CentOS with the list system eating its own dog food. That is, there is a fix for mailman, but not in the CentOS version. Sometimes stability is good, sometimes you need the updates. There is still something of a philosophical issue in changing the apparent authorship (From: ) of the message... Here's an interesting bug report filed 5/7/2014 by, ummm, James Byrne: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1095359 with the apparent resolution being that you need a support contract to discuss problems. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com