On Tue, 7 Oct 2014 09:15:11 -0400 Jerry Geis wrote: > > Do you have any "tricks" for getting rid of the "Applications" and "Places" > > in the top menu bar? or remove the menu bar all together. Bear in mind that I don't use gnome 3. Mate makes this really easy to do. Just right-click on the panel, and select "remove panel" Perhaps you would save yourself some grief by using Mate instead of Gnome 3? It appears to be a lot less rigid than Gnome 3 when it comes to making any changes from the stock setup. -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com