On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 2:05 PM, John R Pierce <pierce at hogranch.com> wrote: >>> >> Only if the design was bad in the first place. And if the design was >> really bad, there wouldn't be any users to infuriate by breaking the >> interfaces they use. But the unix design that linux and linux >> distributions copied was pretty good, including the way init started >> things. > > > why should mysqld need to wait for ntpd to start, and ntpd wait for sshd to > start, and sshd wait for cups? multiply this by the 30 or so services > running on a typical server. sysVinit is a crude hack that has no concept > of service dependencies. Look at it from this perspective: assume your bank and retirement accounts and any stock transactions you have are managed by very complex software sitting on top of the interfaces these distributions provide. Now how wild and crazy do you want the changes in those interfaces to be? How much do you want the fees you pay to increase just to keep the same applications running with the same amounts in the accounts as they showed before? -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com