So claim made, nothing to back it up. Got it. all I need to say is…BASH , OpenSSL….. I am sure there are more. But really, if you are going to claim something, at least be willing to back up what you claim is that asking to much ? On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > > On Fri, October 10, 2014 12:01 pm, William Woods wrote: >> Really, you have some URL’s to back up the paranoia ? > > Well, that's the problem with closed source systems (Which MS Windows is > and commercial antiviruses for it are). One can claim something and there > is no way to prove it is right or it is wrong (or left? ;-) > > I remember some clever person said: "security can only be in open source". > There are systems that are not [quite] open source, even though they are > based on open source. I may be out of date but some time ago (last time I > cared to check) Android was not (even though it is based on Linux kernel, > there is fair chunk of closed code in its kernel). Everybody is free to > imagine me with tin foil hat on, or with pointy hat on... > > Valeri > >> >> On Oct 10, 2014, at 12:00 PM, Always Learning <centos at u62.u22.net> wrote: >> >>> >>> On Fri, 2014-10-10 at 12:19 -0400, James B. Byrne wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, October 9, 2014 21:11, John R Pierce wrote: >>>>> On 10/9/2014 6:07 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>>>>> BTW, the whole idea of "antivirus" is flawed. It is based on >>>>>> "enumerate >>>>>> bad". You can't, as one never knows what will be invented in a >>>>>> future. >>>>> >>>>> I agree, but I don't know what else you can put in the hands of the >>>>> novice, unless its the iPhone world of corporate approved apps only >>>>> purchased through a monopoly 'app store'. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Which simply means: Only 'Government Approved' viruses allowed. >>> >>> Excellent point. Windows 95 was designed to be accessible by the USA >>> authorities. USA anti-virus software "allows" access from the USA >>> authorities. >>> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos