btw, full specs on the gen8... http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetDocument.aspx?docname=c04128132 looks like the gne8 has two gigE ethernet ports, one shared with the iLO. The ethernet is a BCM5720 which I assume without looking up is a Broadcom thing. -- john r pierce 37N 122W somewhere on the middle of the left coast