On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:18 pm, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 29.10.2014 um 22:12 schrieb Valeri Galtsev: >> On Wed, October 29, 2014 4:02 pm, Beartooth wrote: >>> On Wed, 29 Oct 2014 11:44:42 -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>> >>>> ... Basically, if one thinks he knows >>>> more than system vendor, he is just schizophrenic. And we, normal >>>> people, do give schizophrenics a privilege to be on their own. As we, >>>> normal people know that if the distro maintainers had to update >>>> kernel, >>>> they had a reason (otherwise, something else breaks). So, we are left >>>> running _this_ system, even though it's stressful, still not as >>>> stressful as running "bleeding edge" fedora, right? ;-) >>> >>> What? Stressful?? Fedora??? Naaahhh ... >> >> I'm sorry, apart from my laptop, I also run servers. And services are >> supposed to be up 24/7. And a bunch of people are always logged in... >> You >> do the math > > you where the one calling kernel updates necessity, so just ignore them > or face the truth - your choice > > so what - if you need 24/7 than invest time and money and build up a > infrsatsructure wehre you can reboot a node for updates without taking > the services offline or just realize that 15-20 seconds downtime in the > middle of the night doing way less harm then ignore security updates > Yep, that's exactly what I did. I do not feel justified to use Department's money (for extra hardware), so I invested just my time. And built servers based on FreeBSD, services run in different jails, etc. So, you can imagine how much I am hit by the need to reboot into updated Linux kernel, do you? Note, you will not find Linux kernel running of FreeBSD box (just teasing ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++