I'm running CentOS 6 (6.5 iirc) on my wife's machine, which I've been updating pretty much every day. Today yum got 425 packages! Somewhere a dam must have broken. Sometimes some of us don't appreciate how much work the developers do. Strength to their arms, and many heartfelt thanks! -- Beartooth Staffwright, Not Quite Clueless Power User Remember I know little (precious little!) of where up is.