On 09/12/2014 08:23 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Fri, September 12, 2014 12:08 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: >> Frank Cox wrote: >>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:52:53 -0400 >>> Mauricio Tavares wrote: >>> >>>> If it makes you feel any better, I found out a new cartridge for >>>> my home laser printer is $45 while the new version of my printer is >>>> $10 more. >>> It's my understanding that the cartridges that come with new printers >>> usually contain less ink or toner than the replacement cartridges do. >>> They are called a "starter cartridge" to differentiate them from the >>> replacement ones. >> They all do, toner and ink. Less is defined, by the way, as "half as much, >> literally, as the full replacement". > Lets them diminish "apparent" cost of new printer, thus making their > printer look less expensive and more competitive to what competitions > have. After all they do the same... > > Also, the majority of buyers never look into technical part, just compare > products using "pricegrabber" ;-) Which is the reality that doesn't do > much good for the progress. I'm having in mind really good hardware which > also lasts forever. (and still works when it is obsolete, which though > sounds counter-productive) My wife still prefers the color rendering on our HP7310; all her letterheads are set up for it and print the 'wrong' color on the HP8500 and HP8600. The 8500 is still around as that is all I can print to from my corporate notebook, and only when I am off the vpn; so it is off most of the time. So we have 3 all-in-one printers that are used for different tasks. And none of them support T.38...