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   1. CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 115, Issue 9
      (centos-announce-request at centos.org)
   2. CentOS 7 for i686 (Jatin Davey)
   3. nouveau crash on centos 6.5 (Jan Taylor)
   4. Re: nouveau crash on centos 6.5 (zep)
   5. Re: nouveau crash on centos 6.5 (Lewis, Stephen)
   6. Re: ink (Valeri Galtsev)
   7. Re: nouveau crash on centos 6.5 (Scott Robbins)
   8. Re: CentOS 7 for i686 (Brian Miller)
   9. Re: nouveau crash on centos 6.5 (Valeri Galtsev)
  10. Re: CentOS 7 for i686 (Alain P?an)
  11. Centos-7 XFCE - (Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA)
  12. Re: CentOS 7 for i686 (Leon Fauster)
  13. Re: ink (Mauricio Tavares)
  14. Re: Centos-7 XFCE - (Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA)
  15. Re: ink (Frank Cox)
  16. Re: Centos-7 XFCE - (Frank Cox)
  17. Re: ink (m.roth at 5-cent.us)
  18. Re: Centos-7 XFCE - (Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA)
  19. Re: Centos-7 XFCE - (SilverTip257)
  20. Re: Centos-7 XFCE - (Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA)
  21. Re: ink (Valeri Galtsev)


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Today's Topics:

   1. CEBA-2014:1181 CentOS 7 memtest86+ FASTTRACK BugFix Update
      (Johnny Hughes)
   2. CEBA-2014:1180 CentOS 7 openjpeg FASTTRACK BugFix Update
      (Johnny Hughes)
   3. CEBA-2014:1182 CentOS 7 compat-db FASTTRACK BugFix Update
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:56:01 +0000
From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>
To: centos-announce at centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:1181 CentOS 7 memtest86+
FASTTRACK BugFix Update
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CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:1181

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1181.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )

x86_64:
e4465a67aa61d2a875c1a45654e918ec403a1c7a3d346c18e6a99d127a93d064 
memtest86+-4.20-14.el7.x86_64.rpm

Source:
cafb6040047e68991830c23e659d5530dec56ed37f377a146eaf7affb08e6eef 
memtest86+-4.20-14.el7.src.rpm



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 13:57:51 +0000
From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>
To: centos-announce at centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:1180 CentOS 7 openjpeg FASTTRACK
BugFix Update
Message-ID: <20140911135751.GA12283 at n04.lon1.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:1180

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1180.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )

x86_64:
1e744e927c9d7d844d89aae17ac3776250a182f31be987cd7c2b1cdd14c1e6a9 
openjpeg-1.5.1-10.el7.x86_64.rpm
ffa1a0070c689ee38529d8d0c0ec24d4e59c81eb9c4a992b5345637c594cf02d 
openjpeg-devel-1.5.1-10.el7.i686.rpm
78d0e8bc1321cf671a23f7996aa23e540dfbc3bb0008b71bd6ffae3e8fe0a7bb 
openjpeg-devel-1.5.1-10.el7.x86_64.rpm
75faabb15a294fc03929af10e9557739ece14c9d64e15f2d05ee0e3c0d02052c 
openjpeg-libs-1.5.1-10.el7.i686.rpm
4098e5c1f11732d37edde0402964e34510a8364c54a78fcee16058239c60841c 
openjpeg-libs-1.5.1-10.el7.x86_64.rpm

Source:
e108feace0e22fad3ef8f08c14502cf074fbff08f38833e1fe49a1a5b59d0510 
openjpeg-1.5.1-10.el7.src.rpm



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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 18:09:22 +0000
From: Johnny Hughes <johnny at centos.org>
To: centos-announce at centos.org
Subject: [CentOS-announce] CEBA-2014:1182 CentOS 7 compat-db FASTTRACK
BugFix Update
Message-ID: <20140911180922.GA17284 at n04.lon1.karan.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


CentOS Errata and Bugfix Advisory 2014:1182

Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHBA-2014-1182.html

The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently
syncing to the mirrors: ( sha256sum Filename )

x86_64:
aaacd5408fea11518d1f777b2c9fe5780be5e91b56d7c8919abfd72f314a513a 
compat-db-4.7.25-28.el7.x86_64.rpm
7531e31ceaa1f844fa5bd7c51bd8b640d27fd0a9a37edade1d8eecc1ca1b2ebf 
compat-db47-4.7.25-28.el7.i686.rpm
bab7667f36710838ce98693b908f785697975c58f0e2e05d13e1909862a9b20d 
compat-db47-4.7.25-28.el7.x86_64.rpm
31582e7c5df08368f081c5158c1625a35ce5071b8288ee25953d337b0b274e3a 
compat-db-headers-4.7.25-28.el7.noarch.rpm

Source:
772c49db432132209238ec3f72177d00d50fdb8b799b85c277c688256d9c7568 
compat-db-4.7.25-28.el7.src.rpm



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:23:46 +0530
From: Jatin Davey <jashokda at cisco.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: [CentOS] CentOS 7 for i686
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Hi List

Is there going to CentOS 7 for i686 architecture ? If yes , when will it
be released ?

Thanks
Jatin


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:20:19 +0100
From: Jan Taylor <jantaylor1373 at gmail.com>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5
Message-ID:
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Hi,

I am running 64 bit CentOS 6.5, and have an intermittent problem where the
desktop crashes with the following error

nouveau E[Xorg 6062]] failed to idle channel 0xccc0000

The only route I have out of it is to power down then restart. It is
intermittent, where some days it does not happen, to 2-3 times per day.
Have others had this experience and is there a solution?

Thanks in advance for any help

Best wishes
Jan


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:41:31 -0400
From: zep <zgreenfelder at gmail.com>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5
Message-ID: <5412F80B.90303 at gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252


On 09/12/2014 09:20 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running 64 bit CentOS 6.5, and have an intermittent problem where the
> desktop crashes with the following error
>
> nouveau E[Xorg 6062]] failed to idle channel 0xccc0000
>
> The only route I have out of it is to power down then restart. It is
> intermittent, where some days it does not happen, to 2-3 times per day.
> Have others had this experience and is there a solution?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help
>
> Best wishes
> Jan
> _________________________


http://markmail.org/message/v7lmivgrosja75lp#query:+page:1+mid:apvyygkt55yrzu4i+state:results
suggests it's also been an issue for ubuntu, towards the end of that
thread there are some suggestions for fixes (kernel parameters to set)



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:54:54 +0000
From: "Lewis, Stephen" <Stephen.Lewis at idt.com>
To: "'CentOS mailing list'" <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5
Message-ID:
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>From my experience, if you are using NVidia graphics cards you should 
>probably change over to the proprietary NVidia drivers.  They have fewer 
>issues and better performance.

Here are a couple of links on how to do this.  We've had people who have had 
success with each of these 2 different methods:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/instructions-on-how-to-make-nvidia-gtx645-graphics-card-run-using-nvidia-in-rhel-6-5-a-4175500802/

http://rodgersnotes.wordpress.com/2013/07/07/installing-nvidia-drivers-on-redhat-6-4-and-removing-nouveau/


Stephen Lewis
Stephen.Lewis at IDT.com
Computer Operations Support, ADC

-----Original Message-----
From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf 
Of zep
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 9:42 AM
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5


On 09/12/2014 09:20 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running 64 bit CentOS 6.5, and have an intermittent problem where
> the desktop crashes with the following error
>
> nouveau E[Xorg 6062]] failed to idle channel 0xccc0000
>
> The only route I have out of it is to power down then restart. It is
> intermittent, where some days it does not happen, to 2-3 times per day.
> Have others had this experience and is there a solution?
>
> Thanks in advance for any help
>
> Best wishes
> Jan
> _________________________


http://markmail.org/message/v7lmivgrosja75lp#query:+page:1+mid:apvyygkt55yrzu4i+state:results
suggests it's also been an issue for ubuntu, towards the end of that thread 
there are some suggestions for fixes (kernel parameters to set)

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:20:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ink
Message-ID:
<21149.128.135.70.2.1410531637.squirrel at cosmo.uchicago.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


On Fri, September 12, 2014 12:00 am, Chris wrote:
> On 09/09/2014 01:06 AM, ken wrote:
>> I've also read horror stories about the how often new ink cartridges are
>> required, that basically you pay for the printer a second and third time
>> buying cartridges (not to mention how often a print job is interrupted
>> by a trip to buy new cartridges).  Any first-hand reports on that?
>
> I'm using a Canon Pixma. I think Canon's advantage over HP is that you
> can change ink and print head separately. So I'm using no-name ink that
> clogs the print head once a year, but that's still cheaper than buying
> the genuine ink.
>

I don't know details about Canon inkjets, but this sounds similar for the
case of Epson. Epson inkjets have nice (technology wise) piezo-electric
nozzles, so you don't replace them (printing head). HP inkjet printers
have filament that boils ink to spit a droplet. With HP you replace ink
cartridge and heads (which - the heads - are trivial thing). With Epson,
you don't replace sophisticated head. However, you need to print a few
pages a Month ad minimum if you have Epson. Otherwise quite likely you
will have head clogged, and the head will be permanently dead. You have to
replace the head which is about the same $$ wise as to replace the whole
printer. If it is HP, when you notice some color doesn't print, you just
replace that ink cartridge, and is solves it no matter whether the
cartridge was empty or the head was clogged.

I do not own or use much ink jet printers, but knowing that there are HP
wide format inkjet professional printers, I would speculate that HP
technology isn't in to any extent inferior compared to Epson, no matter
what I feel knowing the difference in physical principles used.

Just my 2c.

Valeri


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:23:08 -0400
From: Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5
Message-ID: <20140912142308.GA27526 at scott1.scottro.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 09:41:31AM -0400, zep wrote:
>
> On 09/12/2014 09:20 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running 64 bit CentOS 6.5, and have an intermittent problem where 
> > the
> > desktop crashes with the following error
> >
> > nouveau E[Xorg 6062]] failed to idle channel 0xccc0000
> >
> > The only route I have out of it is to power down then restart. It is
> > intermittent, where some days it does not happen, to 2-3 times per day.
> > Have others had this experience and is there a solution?
> >
I have had this experience, with different distributions, basically RH
based (Fedora, CentOS) Debian based (Lubuntu), and Arch.

I always gave up and use the NVidia drivers--in CentOS' case, from Elrepo,
which makes it quick and easy.

http://elrepo.org/tiki/tiki-index.php


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 10:26:20 -0400
From: Brian Miller <centos at fullnote.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 for i686
Message-ID: <1410531980.26477.29.camel at tardis>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

On Fri, 2014-09-12 at 18:23 +0530, Jatin Davey wrote:
> Hi List
>
> Is there going to CentOS 7 for i686 architecture ? If yes , when will it
> be released ?

Upstream says:  https://access.redhat.com/solutions/509373 , I'd expect
CentOS to follow suit.



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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:33:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] nouveau crash on centos 6.5
Message-ID:
<49063.128.135.70.2.1410532403.squirrel at cosmo.uchicago.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1


On Fri, September 12, 2014 9:23 am, Scott Robbins wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 09:41:31AM -0400, zep wrote:
>>
>> On 09/12/2014 09:20 AM, Jan Taylor wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > I am running 64 bit CentOS 6.5, and have an intermittent problem where
>> the
>> > desktop crashes with the following error
>> >
>> > nouveau E[Xorg 6062]] failed to idle channel 0xccc0000
>> >
>> > The only route I have out of it is to power down then restart. It is
>> > intermittent, where some days it does not happen, to 2-3 times per
>> day.
>> > Have others had this experience and is there a solution?
>> >
> I have had this experience, with different distributions, basically RH
> based (Fedora, CentOS) Debian based (Lubuntu), and Arch.
>
> I always gave up and use the NVidia drivers--in CentOS' case, from Elrepo,
> which makes it quick and easy.
>
> http://elrepo.org/tiki/tiki-index.php
>

Yes, it seems to be about time for Linux folks to stop liking NVIDIA (and
being stuck with proprietary binary drivers) and start liking more others
who provide more documentation about their card internals thus giving open
source teams enough information to maintain decently working open source
drivers.

[ - The one who favored ATI some 12 years back at the peak of Linux love
to NVIDIA ;-)]

Valeri

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:03:39 +0200
From: Alain P?an <alain.pean at lpn.cnrs.fr>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 for i686
Message-ID: <54130B4B.9090304 at lpn.cnrs.fr>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Le 12/09/2014 14:53, Jatin Davey a ?crit :
> Is there going to CentOS 7 for i686 architecture ? If yes , when will
> it be released ?

As already explained on this list, Red Hat ("The Upstream Vendor, TUV")
did not release a 32 bit version, CentOS project, which follows RHEL,
did not provide a 32 bit iso too. See :
https://access.redhat.com/solutions/509373

See also this forum thread :
https://www.centos.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=47211

Now, all CPUs are 64 bits capable, and Red Hat is looking for the
professional and server market, where there is no more interest for 32
bits (memory limited even if there is PAE, UEFI and so on...)

Alain

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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:00:10 -0400
From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" <bobgoodwin at wildblue.net>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
Message-ID: <5413188A.9070009 at wildblue.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


I've installed centos 7 64 bit and would like to install xfce and yumex.
I've had no success doing either despite installing the EPEL repo. I
keep getting "no package yumex available."

Are they available and if so what am I doing wrong?

Bob

-- 
http://www.qrz.com/db/W2BOD
box10  Fedora-20/64bit Linux/XFCE



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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 18:09:19 +0200
From: Leon Fauster <leonfauster at googlemail.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 7 for i686
Message-ID: <0414029D-B03C-4BB1-9967-C1834D7DAACF at googlemail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Am 12.09.2014 um 17:03 schrieb Alain P?an <alain.pean at lpn.cnrs.fr>:
> Le 12/09/2014 14:53, Jatin Davey a ?crit :
>> Is there going to CentOS 7 for i686 architecture ? If yes , when will it 
>> be released ?
>
> As already explained on this list, Red Hat ("The Upstream Vendor, TUV")
> did not release a 32 bit version, CentOS project, which follows RHEL,
> ...

Isn't there a SIG for such a goal?

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2014-January/009358.html

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LF



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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:52:53 -0400
From: Mauricio Tavares <raubvogel at gmail.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ink
Message-ID:
<CAHEKYV5jFHqiBxdQ-nG7jJ-8=YNdywtpsVHWL66XQV3YK_V1LQ at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 10:20 AM, Valeri Galtsev
<galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:
>
> On Fri, September 12, 2014 12:00 am, Chris wrote:
>> On 09/09/2014 01:06 AM, ken wrote:
>>> I've also read horror stories about the how often new ink cartridges are
>>> required, that basically you pay for the printer a second and third time
>>> buying cartridges (not to mention how often a print job is interrupted
>>> by a trip to buy new cartridges).  Any first-hand reports on that?
>>
>> I'm using a Canon Pixma. I think Canon's advantage over HP is that you
>> can change ink and print head separately. So I'm using no-name ink that
>> clogs the print head once a year, but that's still cheaper than buying
>> the genuine ink.
>>
>
> I don't know details about Canon inkjets, but this sounds similar for the
> case of Epson. Epson inkjets have nice (technology wise) piezo-electric
> nozzles, so you don't replace them (printing head). HP inkjet printers
> have filament that boils ink to spit a droplet. With HP you replace ink
> cartridge and heads (which - the heads - are trivial thing). With Epson,
> you don't replace sophisticated head. However, you need to print a few
> pages a Month ad minimum if you have Epson. Otherwise quite likely you
> will have head clogged, and the head will be permanently dead. You have to
> replace the head which is about the same $$ wise as to replace the whole
> printer. If it is HP, when you notice some color doesn't print, you just
> replace that ink cartridge, and is solves it no matter whether the
> cartridge was empty or the head was clogged.
>
> I do not own or use much ink jet printers, but knowing that there are HP
> wide format inkjet professional printers, I would speculate that HP
> technology isn't in to any extent inferior compared to Epson, no matter
> what I feel knowing the difference in physical principles used.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Valeri
>
      If it makes you feel any better, I found out a new cartridge for
my home laser printer is $45 while the new version of my printer is
$10 more. Does make you think.

>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Valeri Galtsev
> Sr System Administrator
> Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
> Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
> University of Chicago
> Phone: 773-702-4247
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:53:54 -0400
From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" <bobgoodwin at wildblue.net>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
Message-ID: <54132522.5070005 at wildblue.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed


On 09/12/14 12:00, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> I've installed centos 7 64 bit and would like to install xfce and
> yumex. I've had no success doing either despite installing the EPEL
> repo. I keep getting "no package yumex available."
>
> Are they available and if so what am I doing wrong?
>
> Bob
>

It looks like there are no repositories installed for Centos 7? That
explains my problem. Is this something I have to wait for or is there a
work around?

I installed from the centos 7 live version if that matters ...

Bob

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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:01:42 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre at melvilletheatre.com>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ink
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:52:53 -0400
Mauricio Tavares wrote:

>       If it makes you feel any better, I found out a new cartridge for
> my home laser printer is $45 while the new version of my printer is
> $10 more.

It's my understanding that the cartridges that come with new printers 
usually contain less ink or toner than the replacement cartridges do.  They 
are called a "starter cartridge" to differentiate them from the replacement 
ones.

-- 
MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com


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Message: 16
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:04:40 -0600
From: Frank Cox <theatre at melvilletheatre.com>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
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On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:53:54 -0400
Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:

This

> It looks like there are no repositories installed for Centos 7?

contradicts this

>  despite installing the EPEL

However, yumex for Centos 7 appears to be available from the nux repo.  I 
just checked.

-- 
MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com


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Message: 17
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:08:29 -0400
From: m.roth at 5-cent.us
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ink
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Frank Cox wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:52:53 -0400
> Mauricio Tavares wrote:
>
>>       If it makes you feel any better, I found out a new cartridge for
>> my home laser printer is $45 while the new version of my printer is
>> $10 more.
>
> It's my understanding that the cartridges that come with new printers
> usually contain less ink or toner than the replacement cartridges do.
> They are called a "starter cartridge" to differentiate them from the
> replacement ones.

They all do, toner and ink. Less is defined, by the way, as "half as much,
literally, as the full replacement".

       mark



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Message: 18
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:14:15 -0400
From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" <bobgoodwin at wildblue.net>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
Message-ID: <541329E7.8020906 at wildblue.net>
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On 09/12/14 13:04, Frank Cox wrote:
> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:53:54 -0400
> Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>
> This
>
>> It looks like there are no repositories installed for Centos 7?
> contradicts this
>
>>   despite installing the EPEL

Yes I realized that after I wrote it. I went through the motions of
installing EPEL and it looked like it worked but I cant find anything under
/var/lib/yum/repos/x86_64/.
> However, yumex for Centos 7 appears to be available from the nux repo.  I 
> just checked.

Yes I saw that earlier but had no luck there, perhaps I gave up too easily?

Thank you,

Bob

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Message: 19
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:20:07 -0400
From: SilverTip257 <silvertip257 at gmail.com>
To: CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
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On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 1:14 PM, Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA <
bobgoodwin at wildblue.net> wrote:

>
> On 09/12/14 13:04, Frank Cox wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:53:54 -0400
>> Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA wrote:
>>
>> This
>>
>>  It looks like there are no repositories installed for Centos 7?
>>>
>> contradicts this
>>
>>    despite installing the EPEL
>>>
>>
> Yes I realized that after I wrote it. I went through the motions of
> installing EPEL and it looked like it worked but I cant find anything 
> under
> /var/lib/yum/repos/x86_64/.


I haven't taken the plunge on EL7 (but I can say from Fedora installs) that
the repo files are usually in /etc/yum.repos.d/


>
>  However, yumex for Centos 7 appears to be available from the nux repo.  I
>> just checked.
>>
>
> Yes I saw that earlier but had no luck there, perhaps I gave up too 
> easily?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Bob
>
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Message: 20
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:54:22 -0400
From: "Bob Goodwin - Zuni, Virginia, USA" <bobgoodwin at wildblue.net>
To: centos at centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] Centos-7 XFCE -
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On 09/12/14 13:20, SilverTip257 wrote:
> I haven't taken the plunge on EL7 (but I can say from Fedora installs) 
> that
> the repo files are usually in /etc/yum.repos.d/

Yes, you are correct, I see them there including epel.repo.

So that should work. I should have read my own notes! Yum usually just
works ...

Thank you,

Bob

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Message: 21
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 13:23:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>
To: "CentOS mailing list" <centos at centos.org>
Subject: Re: [CentOS] ink
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On Fri, September 12, 2014 12:08 pm, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
> Frank Cox wrote:
>> On Fri, 12 Sep 2014 12:52:53 -0400
>> Mauricio Tavares wrote:
>>
>>>       If it makes you feel any better, I found out a new cartridge for
>>> my home laser printer is $45 while the new version of my printer is
>>> $10 more.
>>
>> It's my understanding that the cartridges that come with new printers
>> usually contain less ink or toner than the replacement cartridges do.
>> They are called a "starter cartridge" to differentiate them from the
>> replacement ones.
>
> They all do, toner and ink. Less is defined, by the way, as "half as much,
> literally, as the full replacement".

Lets them diminish "apparent" cost of new printer, thus making their
printer look less expensive and more competitive to what competitions
have. After all they do the same...

Also, the majority of buyers never look into technical part, just compare
products using "pricegrabber" ;-) Which is the reality that doesn't do
much good for the progress. I'm having in mind really good hardware which
also lasts forever. (and still works when it is obsolete, which though
sounds counter-productive)

Valeri

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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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