[CentOS] firefox: annoyance

Fri Sep 26 14:08:27 UTC 2014
Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu>

On Fri, September 26, 2014 8:21 am, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On 09/25/2014 09:42 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>> Steve Lindemann wrote:
>>> On 9/25/2014 8:13 AM, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote:
>>>> Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, September 25, 2014 8:59 am, John Doe wrote:
>>>>>> From: Johan Vermeulen <jvermeulen at cawdekempen.be>
>>>>>>> op 25-09-14 13:46, mark schreef:
>>>>>>>>   Yup, forgot that: no tool bar at all, no menus....
>> <snip>
>>>> It is *completely* unacceptable to release an update that appears to
>>>> ignore the configuration files, and doesn't even *show* the menu,
>>>> which
>>>> would absolutely freak out an "ordinary user".
>>>> And to lose the tabs! I am *not* going to update firefox at work till
>>>> they fix this - I have stuff I need.
>>>> <snip>
>>> Switch to Palemoon or Qupzilla, firefox has "improved" itself to the
>>> point where it's just not a choice anymore, let alone a good one.  I've
>>> been using Palemoon and it's been a damn good choice for me... ymmv
>> palemoon looks nice - *is* there a package for it somewhere, or do you
>> have to d/l and install from their homepage?
>>> Find something else that works for you, there are other choices.  It's
>>> gotten to the point where firefox is as bad as chrome or ie.  A shame,
>>> it used to be such a good choice.
>> I have to worry, here at work. I am *not* going to even think about
>> trying
>> to force my users to use another browser, one they've never heard of
>> (I've
>> never heard of either of these). This needs to be fixed....
> Unless the behavior is different in CentOS than RHEL, it is fixed.
> You can turn on the menu bar (right click and click the check mark)
> If your users use Windows or mac, they already are using something that
> does not have a menu bar.  Firefox has the same look everywhere.
> So, because you have to check a box to get the menu, you want to look
> for a new browser, which could just stop working at the whims of the
> upstream guys (like chromium did) when they move on to the latest and
> greatest glibc, etc?  This sounds silly to me .. check the menu box and
> use firefox.  It will be supported and secure until EOL.

No, it is not because of that. At least in my case. I started looking for
decent open source browser that to an extent possible follows the rule
"don't change anything unless it is absolutely necessary" as far as the
way of user interaction goes some 5 or so years ago. Not only changes that
brake all former logic (I'm talking about Firefox here), but also stupid
rushing of new hardly ever tested "releases",... So, you are happy with
it; it's your way of life, silly or not is seems to me. The same as my
feelings about "enterprise attitude" any sort of software, silly or not my
feelings seem to you.

Just my $0.02


Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247