[CentOS] wifi on servers and fedora [was Re: 7.2 kernel panic on boot]

Wed Dec 9 16:10:28 UTC 2015
Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org>

On Wed, Dec 09, 2015 at 08:54:56AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote:
> So, the implication of your suggestion, if I understand it aright, is
> that I should audit all of the communication forums in use by Fedora
> developers and then point out whenever any of the many dozens or
> hundreds of contributors introduces something that in my opinion may
> impact a server installation.  To do this I am required to obtain such
> intimate personal knowledge of the internal workings of the
> distribution as to be able to identify these items as soon as they are
> introduced.  naturally, I am also supposed to be able to immediately
> identify the negative impact of these things and prepare and present a
> cogent argument against their adoption or propose patches to correct
> the deficiencies that I believe that I have detected.

Yes, that's basically how it works — but you don't actually have to go
to that elaborate scale to make a difference. That's why I suggested
getting involved with Fedora Server, not "auditing all of the
communication forums". We (Fedora) also work hard on making sure that
proposed and planned changes are communicated. Following the Devel
Announce list

is a relatively low-traffic, low-effort way to stay informed of major

Focus on something you're interested in. When enough people do that, it
adds up.

> I am to do this whilst running a CentOS installation that will not
> allow Fedora onto the premises.  SO, no doubt, the intent is that I
> should run Fedora on my home systems and work diligently in my off
> hours to protect any future version of CentOS from that vantage.  

Working with your employer to fix the "will not allow Fedora into the
premises" part seems like a good start.

Of course, if you don't like all of this — and from your tone, it
sounds very much like you don't — there's another obvious path where
you can have an impact. That's to pay for Red Hat Enterprise Linux, and
to submit feedback and problems through the official channels that

>                                                                    And
> of course, if I miss something then it is my fault for not having paid
> enough attention to that item.

I don't think _fault_ comes into it. It's not about blame; it's just
that when no one does something, that something doesn't happen.

Matthew Miller
<mattdm at fedoraproject.org>
Fedora Project Leader