[CentOS] CentOS and typical usage

Sat Dec 12 15:03:10 UTC 2015
Johan Vermeulen <johan.vermeulen7 at telenet.be>

Op 12-dec.-2015 15:03 schreef Alice Wonder <alice at domblogger.net>:
> I share some of the frustration with Fedora developers "not listening" 
> but I don't share all of the frustration. 
> As far as customizing CentOS / Fedora for server vs desktop vs laptop vs 
> whatever, to me that is a moot issue. 
> In the server environment you almost certainly are using a virtual 
> machine, and to use a virtual machine you create an image. Set up the 
> image how you want and be done with it, you can then deploy it thousands 
> of times and it is set up the way you need it. 
> I typically use the default image provided by Linode - it is a good 
> image for a server, just remember to install the yum-cron package and 
> enable the firewall. 
> I was one of the systemd haters initially but now I don't have an issue 
> with it. Yes it is different than what I learned, but once I stopped 
> yelling at the kids to get off my damn lawn, it wasn't that hard to 
> figure out what I needed to do to get systemd to work for me instead of 
> me working against it. 
> Gnome is the only place where I have serious issue with the direction 
> Fedora is going. I loved Gnome 2 but hate Gnome 3 with a passion. I 
> tried to love it, but I just can't. 
> They took away my vertical scroll bars. I understand most people scroll 
> with a mouse wheel, but it is really hard to do that from my T series 
> thinkpads. 
> The solution they gave me in the forums involved needing to write some 
> CSS stuff - no gui checkbox, I had to create a CSS file. 
> And even that didn't fully work, some applications still didn't have 
> scroll bars. Apparently that's because they weren't "ported" to the 
> newer gtk or something. But if that's the case, where adding the CSS 
> won't bring the scroll thing back, then they shouldn't lose it. 
> Fonts - they look horrible to me in Gnome 3 and no setting I could 
> figure out made them look good. 
> Graphics - moving stuff around the desktop really taxed my built-in 
> video, what use to be smooth was often choppy, especially on my Thinkpad 
> T410. 
> Totem - for the life of me I couldn't figure out how to get it to not be 
> full screen. 
> Switched to mate and all those issues instantly went away. 
> Gnome3 I think is an area where the Fedora developers are refusing to 
> listen, but that isn't really an issue because they do package Mate and 
> Mate is in EPEL so I can install it in CentOS and be done with it. 
> But things like systemd, wireless drivers, etc. - there, I don't think 
> there is a good argument because it is easy to set up a system and make 
> an image that you then use as your base for creating new VMs for the server. 
> As someone who uses CentOS on the desktop quite a bit, I am glad that 
> RHEL / CentOS does pay attention to the needs of use desktop users. 
> I use to use CentOS on the server and Fedora on the desktop, and then, 
> RHEL/CentOS as a server OS made sense to me. 
> But Fedora is too bleeding edge for my liking now, and CentOS is the 
> Linux distribution I recommend for desktop use. 
> So no, I don't think it should target servers at the expense of the 
> desktop users. 
> Just my two cents, don't mean to stir the pot, just giving my opinion.

Having 150 people using CentOS on the desktop, I couldn't agree more

Greetings, J. _______________________________________________ 
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