On Thu, December 3, 2015 3:06 pm, Leon Fauster wrote: > Am 03.12.2015 um 17:01 schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us: >> Leon Fauster wrote: >>> Am 03.12.2015 um 15:40 schrieb m.roth at 5-cent.us: >>>> Valeri Galtsev wrote: >>>> Agreed. I don't want "hints", and I'm not doing fedora or ubuntu, >>>> because I don't want the LATESTGREATESTBLEEDINGEDGETIP, I want >>>> *stability*, and, since we're supposed to be *enterprise* grade, >>>> I want stuff that's simple enough for a poor ol' sysadmin, who >>>> might have to explain to a manager what we're on.... >>> >>> well - for CentOS there is only one state where you should be - on the >>> "latest". >> >> Sorry, you seem to not have dealt with enough managers who only really >> know Windows, or other divisions (esp. ones that are 95% Windows) who >> require documentation, etc.... > > > <humor> I normally dealt with managers that coordinates the team members > and the objectives. Version numbers are handled by the team members > and not by the managers - but thats company specific ... </humor> > I've heard there are three types of managers (management): 1. Cooperative. When the manager is same capable at doing actual work as team members and acts as one of them. This style is claimed to be most efficient. 2. Not interfering. Means sets general goals, doesn't intrude into actual work and technical decisions. Doesn't insist on unrealistic deadlines. Less efficient (pretty good for capable team and can yield the best in a long run results) 3. Authoritative. Doesn't need explanation. Least efficient. ;-) Valeri > -- > LF > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++