On Tue, Dec 08, 2015 at 10:46:58AM -0500, James B. Byrne wrote: > > This is roughly true, although "downstream" RHEL makes its own > > decisions about many things. If you (Mark, or anyone else) would like > > to make this different in the future, getting involved with Fedora > > Server is a good way to do so. > However, to describe the Server List as an active forum for discussion > would be somewhat overstating things. I have not received anything I didn't describe in that way. In fact, it *isn't* that. It's a mailing list for working on the Fedora Server edition. > from it as yet in December and the total volume of traffic on that > list in November was very light. I'm sure it will pick up as we get further into the Fedora 24 cycle. > I am not sure in what way you envisage additional involvement is to > take place. It's an open source project. There are a lot of ways to be involved. >From your concerns, doing early testing and providing feedback on system-wide features from a server perspective is one way. Or simply doing QA in general. You could also help develop server roles matching needs in your environment — that's a particular feature I'm hoping will come from Fedora through RHEL to CentOS. > I have been bitten by things done in Fedora that only have any use on > a laptop and that should never have been allowed into a server > distribution. But I cannot see how I would have been aware of them > until they manifested themselves on equipment under my care. By which ^ right, this. > time it is rather too late to influence the decision to include them. Well, not if you get involved early. That's the point. If you don't *want* to, that's fine, but there's only so much complainy cake that you can have and eat at the same time. -- Matthew Miller mattdm at mattdm.org <http://mattdm.org/> Fedora Project Leader mattdm at fedoraproject.org <http://fedoraproject.org/>