On Mon, February 2, 2015 5:31 pm, Always Learning wrote: > > On Mon, 2015-02-02 at 15:17 -0700, Warren Young wrote: > > >> The answer is clear to me: general security principles. By the time EL8 >> comes out, we’ll have had ~3 years of warnings under EL7 that weak >> passwords would not be tolerated, and they’re finally disallowing >> them. Good! >> >> (More like 6 years, actually, because EL6 gives a red warning bar for >> weak passwords.) >> >> Let’s flip it around: what’s your justification *for* weak >> passwords? > > > Wrong point. Wrong focus. Ultimately it is for the deployer (and the > user if Root) to determine. To suggest otherwise is pure arrogance. > > M$ users do not own their machines. M$ does. M$ determines what they can > do and what data M$ secretly collects on them, stores on the machine and > prevents the user viewing. Seems like another move towards emulating M$. > > If testing then a one character password is very acceptable to me. Why > should some arrogant nutter impose an arduous ultra secure password when > a simple one character password will suffice ? Who knows the machine, > the deploying environment and the circumstances better ? The user or > some anonymous and arrogant nutter perhaps many thousands of miles (or > kilometers) away ? > > Remember machines should be working for the convenience of Humanity - > not for the convenience of anonymous nutters who know absolutely nothing > about the user's work situation ! Generally having strong passwords is > good however generalised circumstances should never be forced down the > throats of loyal users. An English (as in England, Europe) saying is:- > > Rules were made for the guidance of wise men, > but for the obedience of fools ! Yet, the "fools" are so inventive, they often find a way around rules. Valeri > > If everyone is willing to donate USD 1, then perhaps we could lend him > to M$ where security is so lax he could do some enormous good. > > No need to waffle Warren. You've lost this one :-) > > -- > Regards, > > Paul. > England, EU. Je suis Charlie. > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++