[CentOS] Orwell's 1984 from Freedesktop,org?

On 01/23/2015 05:50 AM, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:
> On Fri, 2015-01-23 at 16:18 +1300, Rob Kampen wrote:
>> On 01/23/2015 04:05 PM, Always Learning wrote:
>>> On Thu, 2015-01-22 at 21:19 -0500, Bill Maltby (C4B) wrote:
>>>
>>>> I object to this sort of crap. Hidden, no reason for an *IX desktop to
>>>> be forced to ignore or deal with this crap.
>>>>
>>>> Anybody else seeing it?
>>>>
>>>> In case attachments aren't allowed in the list, here's the Dropbox url
>>>> for the image.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/b2p2ki7t2rwi5ot/FreeDeskTop_Org_Orwell_1984.png?dl=0
>>>>
>>>> I believe this relates to an earlier thread in which someone questioned
>>>> what that Freedesktop.org stuff was doing (as did I).
>>>>
>>>> Any help appreciated.
>>> What is going-on ?  It really looks Windozed !  Looking at it makes me
>>> feel ill.
>>>
>>>
>> Seriously??
>> If, as most linux folk do, you run your desktop as a normal user (i.e. 
>> NOT root) and then you try to do some system type changing, then there 
>> are two options -
>> 1. tell the user to go away
>> 2. ask for suitable credentials
>> The authenticate dialog box is offering to complete the task as long the 
>> password for root is supplied - what on earth is wrong with that?
>> On the command line you just get a cryptic not allowed, insufficient 
>> rights etc. type message, with GUI the developer is interpreting this 
>> and offering to escalate privileges if you can prove you are allowed.
>>
>> Most of the applications under the system/administration tab of the 
>> gnome desktop offer this kind of dialog.
>> Sorry I don't see the reason for the paranoia.
> 
> Everyone's entitled to his own opinion, so I respect your right to that
> view.
> 
> First, as to paranoia, how much $ is spent because of justified paranoia
> in this world? ISTM that paranoia is justified by that alone. Second, I
> spent too many years working with "those who know best" developing
> software and systems when there was rigorous methodology to have any
> unjustified faith in those who now work in a "throw it against the user
> wall and see what sticks or gets reported as buggy" methodology.
> 
> I don't want this stupid thing popping up every time I switch from my
> normal active user logons to my "dead" one (used to get around the
> unaddressed bug I filed over a month ago about switching run levels
> causing crashes and running multiple users as I'd been doing for ...
> over a decade(?) on CentOS).
> 
> Even windows doesn't make me repeatedly click cancel if I'm not ready to
> update (I have one Windows box for one application I do and my wife has
> a couple) - it raise a little ... "flag" saying updates are available (I
> have "check with me" set rather than allowing auto updates).
> 
> Yesterday on this 6.6 box I had to click cancel many times - most on one
> switch of users as apparently they queue up.
> 
> AFAIK, tools are provided (sudo, "su -", ...) for non-root users to
> invoke and accomplish these functions on *their* schedule, rather than
> that set by some anonymous "one who knows better".

Then turn off the service that does/offers auto updates in GUI mode.


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