On 01/11/2015 09:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > On Sun, January 11, 2015 7:29 pm, Keith Keller wrote: >> On 2015-01-12, Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >>> PS I guess I just mention it. I'm quite happy about CentOS (or RedHat if >>> I >>> look back). One day I realized how happy I am that I chose RedHat way >>> back, - that was when all Debian (and its clones like Ubuntu,...) admins >>> were fighting with the consequences of this: >>> http://www.debian.org/security/2008/dsa-1571 . If I had Debian machine I >>> would not only regenerate all key pairs, certs, etc. I would question >>> sanity of that box then, and will not be certain what confidential stuff >>> could have been stolen from it... I realized then that that level big >>> flop >>> never happened to RedHat. I couldn't even point to something that would >>> constitute big flop RedHat of then. One only criticizes something while >>> one cares about it ;-) >> Heartbleed was pretty scary, no? I'd consider that at least as bad as >> the predictable number generator issue. >> > Well, heratbleed and shellshock were pretty much global: all systems (not > only Linuxes, not to say particular Linux distributions - my FreeBSD boxes > were affected too) using openssl or bash were affected... Same bad, yet > these were not flops of particular distribution, so whichever system you > decided to stick with , you had these. Not certain about you, but this > kind of makes difference for me. When I say I'm happy about [me choosing > way back] RedHat heartbleed, no heartbleed, no difference. > > Valeri > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos I guess everyone will have an opinion of systemd whether it be good or bad. The only resolution is to either use a distro that has systemd on it, use a distro that DOESN'T have systemd on it...or build your OWN distro and don't include systemd! I guess when it all boils down to it, there's STILL choice.....even when it doesn't seem like there is! EGO II