On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Warren Young <wyml at etr-usa.com> wrote: > On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com> wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:42 AM, ken <gebser at mousecar.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, a >>> little manual work was needed on the Windows side, but this was well >>> documented and frankly not that hard. Since I've done it-- numerous times-- >>> I'm not readily persuaded that it's impossible to do. >> >> It's effectively impossible. Very few people know how to do this. > > Relatively few people know how to write C programs, but that doesn’t make it "effectively impossible” to write them, nor does it mean that CentOS can’t run C programs. Bad analogy. Car doesn't come with a CD player. Does the dealer support your user installed CD player? No. Your CD player, you installed it, you support it, or whoever you paid to install it can support it, not the car manufacturer or dealer's problem. And the same here, dual boot is not a supported feature on RHEL/CentOS, the piece to enable that is missing and the user has to install that to make it possible. User supported. Not distro supported. > >> Fewer care to learn when there are platforms that make this much >> easier. > > If you want Ubuntu, you know where to get it. Ubuntu fails to boot UEFI+Secure Boot Windows 8.x as well. For some lame reason, only openSUSE has the secure boot patches for GRUB, I've found them no where else so far even though they've been around for years. > > Oh, and let me point out that Windows doesn’t resize Linux partitions, so please don’t give me any kind of argument that this is a necessary step before we can get to the Glorious Year of Linux. > _______________________________________________ No, the list of requirements to get there is quite long still. Android arrived at rapid success in the "everybody else can use it" where Linux on the desktop still struggles with catering to users who think "everybody else" is a moron because they want a dumbed down system and therefore they don't matter. So as long as "everybody" doesn't matter and only the current user base does matter, the Linux desktop market isn't ever going to grow. And no it's not just about dual boot. It's also the never ending regressions that break things. It isn't any one thing, and that's why this is hard. But the dual booting thing is pretty much completely figured out, yet it's essentially inaccessible because that knowledge hasn't been translated through development to enable "everyone" to benefit. -- Chris Murphy