[CentOS] dual-booting <- Re: installing Cents os server 7.0

Thu Jul 2 23:33:57 UTC 2015
Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com>

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 4:12 PM, Warren Young <wyml at etr-usa.com> wrote:
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:32 AM, Chris Murphy <lists at colorremedies.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 10:42 AM, ken <gebser at mousecar.com> wrote:
>>> Yes, a
>>> little manual work was needed on the Windows side, but this was well
>>> documented and frankly not that hard.  Since I've done it-- numerous times--
>>> I'm not readily persuaded that it's impossible to do.
>> It's effectively impossible. Very few people know how to do this.
> Relatively few people know how to write C programs, but that doesn’t make it "effectively impossible” to write them, nor does it mean that CentOS can’t run C programs.

Bad analogy. Car doesn't come with a CD player. Does the dealer
support your user installed CD player? No. Your CD player, you
installed it, you support it, or whoever you paid to install it can
support it, not the car manufacturer or dealer's problem.

And the same here, dual boot is not a supported feature on
RHEL/CentOS, the piece to enable that is missing and the user has to
install that to make it possible. User supported. Not distro

>> Fewer care to learn when there are platforms that make this much
>> easier.
> If you want Ubuntu, you know where to get it.

Ubuntu fails to boot UEFI+Secure Boot Windows 8.x as well. For some
lame reason, only openSUSE has the secure boot patches for GRUB, I've
found them no where else so far even though they've been around for

> Oh, and let me point out that Windows doesn’t resize Linux partitions, so please don’t give me any kind of argument that this is a necessary step before we can get to the Glorious Year of Linux.
> _______________________________________________

No, the list of requirements to get there is quite long still. Android
arrived at rapid success in the "everybody else can use it" where
Linux on the desktop still struggles with catering to users who think
"everybody else" is a moron because they want a dumbed down system and
therefore they don't matter. So as long as "everybody" doesn't matter
and only the current user base does matter, the Linux desktop market
isn't ever going to grow.

And no it's not just about dual boot. It's also the never ending
regressions that break things. It isn't any one thing, and that's why
this is hard. But the dual booting thing is pretty much completely
figured out, yet it's essentially inaccessible because that knowledge
hasn't been translated through development to enable "everyone" to

Chris Murphy