greetings, system: CentOS = 6.6 - current updates KDE = 4.3.4 Network Manager = 0.8.1 wicd = 1.7.0 (bzr-r552) from what i have read in threads, it appears that 'wicd' is recommended network controller over 'network manager'. because of this, i installed wicd and tried to use. i find this strange because i see problems when using 'wicd'. in attempt to understand what and where problem may be, i have tried various ways of checking for problem. to post what i have found, i am posting in 6 parts to hopefully make it easier for help in troubleshooting by breaking down what i have found. comments and suggestions most welcome. tia. -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g .