greetings, to further check wicd problem, i decided to run test as root user and as user. i verified wicd problems 1, 2, 3 happen when logged in as root user. to further test wicd problems, i tried a few command line problems using virtual terminals. in following, note changing of status for eth0. [root at boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 down [root at boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23 UP BROADCAST MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:886 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:491 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:78924 (77.0 KiB) TX bytes:63994 (62.4 KiB) Interrupt:19 Memory:f0180000-f01a0000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) virbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95 inet addr:192.168.122.1 Bcast:192.168.122.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB) [root at boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:900 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:520 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:80504 (78.6 KiB) TX bytes:69267 (67.6 KiB) Interrupt:19 Memory:f0180000-f01a0000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) virbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95 inet addr:192.168.122.1 Bcast:192.168.122.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB) [root at boxen Documents]# ifconfig eth0 down;ifconfig;date lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) virbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95 inet addr:192.168.122.1 Bcast:192.168.122.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB) Sun Jul 26 21:30:00 CDT 2015 [root at boxen Documents]# ifconfig;date eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0F:FE:8F:8F:23 inet addr:192.168.1.1 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 inet6 addr: fe80::20f:feff:fe8f:8f23/64 Scope:Link UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:993 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:575 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000 RX bytes:87572 (85.5 KiB) TX bytes:76022 (74.2 KiB) Interrupt:19 Memory:f0180000-f01a0000 lo Link encap:Local Loopback inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:65536 Metric:1 RX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:296 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) TX bytes:22964 (22.4 KiB) virbr0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 52:54:00:B3:A7:95 inet addr:192.168.122.1 Bcast:192.168.122.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1 RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0 TX packets:22 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0 collisions:0 txqueuelen:0 RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:3417 (3.3 KiB) Sun Jul 26 21:30:20 CDT 2015 i used date command to show time interval of eth0 state changing. a 5th problem i see with 'wicd' is in post "Subject: wicd problem"; 5: wicd restarts itself when as user making terminal commands -- If Bill Gates got a dime for every time Windows crashes... ...oh, wait. He does. THAT explains it! -+- in a world with out fences, who needs gates. CentOS GNU/Linux 6.6 tc,hago. g .