On Thu, July 30, 2015 11:54 am, Chris Murphy wrote: > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Valeri Galtsev > <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >>> Now I use Google. They offer MFA opt in. And now I'm more secure than >>> I was with the myopic ISP. >> >> "More secure" only to the level one can trust google ;-) > > Yes I know, but I put them in approximately the same ballpark as > having to trust my proprietary CPU, and proprietary logic board's > proprietary firmware. > There is difference IMHO. Proprietary hardware manufacturers were in making profit on selling hardware (at least from the beginning). Google has always been in making profit on information [about us] they can collect. But in general you are right. Likelihood wise, I'll stick to my opinion ;-) Valeri ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++