El 22/10/2015 a las 03:00 p.m., Valeri Galtsev escribió: > > On Thu, October 22, 2015 12:49 pm, Johnny Hughes wrote: >> On 10/22/2015 11:50 AM, Juan Bernhard wrote: >>> >>> El 22/10/2015 a las 01:40 p.m., Nux! escribió: >>>> Kai, >>>> >>>> It is a reality, but when you look at the RHEL target audience, it's >>>> not exactly hip devs deploying Docker in the cloud. >>>> Big corps, banks and the like have a very slow development cycle and >>>> long term support is absolutely crucial, software needs to run for >>>> years on end without glitches, without interruptions, in a very >>>> predictable manner etc. >>>> >>>> For the aforementioned devs I think the best answer are the software >>>> collections, that or just use a different distribution. It is what it >>>> is. >>>> >>>> >>>> Lucian >>> >>> Lucian, they also include the newer versions. The case of banks, who >>> need specially PHP version 5.3, are a slim 0.01% of php users, the rest >>> of the mortals, like me, who needs a simple webmail like horde running, >>> have problems because the rest of the world is not developing any more >>> with php 5.3 compatibility in mind >>> >>> Saludos, Juan >>> >> >> Correct .. but that is not who RHEL, CentOS, Ubuntu (LTS), or SLES type >> distros are for. That is what Fedora, OpenSUSE, Ubuntu, Debian, Linux >> Mint and any other number of "Bleeding Edge" distros are for. If you >> want latest and greatest .. well, then use latest and greatest. If you >> want enterprise, then use CentOS. >> > > And incidentally these 0.01% (even if the number is true) of Enterprise > users pay virtually 100% of RH income (the last is what the brilliant job > of individuals at RH is paid for from). Let's not forget they as well as > us have families to support. > > Valeri Im not saying that they must remove this package, but they also should include the newer version. I use freebsd (and its not a toy distro like fedora), and you have several ports, php, php54, php55 and php56 to choose whatever you need. Please, dont think that I dont appreciate the RH job on this, some one should support a long term version, some applications needs this, but very few. Thats all. I needed to say this, this is the only thing that bother me of centos, and its a little thing. The solution is to add another repo, but is a petty that they dont include the newer version on the default one. Centos its a great distro, dont take this a complain... its just a suggestion. Saludos, Juan > >> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Sent from the Delta quadrant using Borg technology! >>>> >>>> Nux! >>>> www.nux.ro >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: "Kai Schaetzl" <maillists at conactive.com> >>>>> To: centos at centos.org >>>>> Sent: Thursday, 22 October, 2015 17:33:33 >>>>> Subject: Re: [CentOS] PHP version not enough for developers >>>> >>>>> Nux! wrote on Thu, 22 Oct 2015 17:27:26 +0100 (BST): >>>>> >>>>>> It's irrelevant in this case that PHP 5.3 is EOL. It will continue >>>>>> to be supported by Red Hat with security patches. >>>>> >>>>> Exactly. >>>>> Nevertheless, PHP 5.6 is not "bleeding edge" as someone else said. >>>>> 5.5 and >>>>> 5.6 are really state of the art and often necessary to install certain >>>>> software packages or for some functionality. The packages provided by >>>>> RH >>>>> are much too fast outdated or have other problems. It's a reality. >>>>> >>>>> Kai >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > Valeri Galtsev > Sr System Administrator > Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics > Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics > University of Chicago > Phone: 773-702-4247 > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >