On Wed, April 27, 2016 10:29 am, m.roth at 5-cent.us wrote: > Alice Wonder wrote: >> On 04/27/2016 01:21 AM, Brandon Vincent wrote: >>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Rob Kampen <rkampen at kampensonline.com> > wrote: >>>> Sounds good, but how many domain MX servers have set up these >>>> fingerprint keys - 1%, maybe 2%, so how do you code for that? I guess > I'm thinking >>>> it uses it if available. So even if you do post it on your DNS, how > many clients out there are using DANE on their set up? By the time it > becomes more than a tiny % and generally useful, it will be in CentOS 8. > It >>>> also requires certificates to be implemented more ubiquitously than at > present - although we do now have affordable solutions, so this one may > resolve >>>> more quickly. >>> >> Security and Privacy on the Internet are both severely broken. >> >> If you read the white papers from when the Internet was first being > designed, security was rarely even mentioned. > <snip> > Just as a point of information, when those RFCs were written, the Internet > was *only* for US gov't, and selected research and educational > organizations, and NO ONE else. The open 'Net only came in in the nineties > - so security wasn't broken and insecure, back then there was physical > security and careful selection as to who was allowed on, at all. That is true, they had in mind resilience of communication net to portions of it brought down (implying some nasty thing like nuclear exchange). Real security though is not in restriction of those who can access something (like government only). Security experts often say: if a secret in known to two people it likely is not a secret anymore ;-( Valeri > > mark > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++